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Less than Nothing

By Sheldon Richman
Published: 20 February 2009

The story is told that Ludwig von Mises was once asked, “Do you mean to say that the government should have done nothing during the Great Depression?” Mises responded, “I mean to say it should have started doing nothing long before that.”

I hope the story is not apocryphal, because it perfectly sums up the government’s proper role in managing the economy: none. The misnamed stimulus law is now on the books. While nearly everyone believes the government has to do something to get the economy out of the recession, those who understand markets insist that we’d be better off if the government did nothing at all. Of course, politicians are incapable of doing nothing when there is harm to be done, but the “stimulus” critics intrepidly insist that anything the government does will be worse than doing nothing at all.

This is certainly true. Unquestionably, doing nothing is better than borrowing nearly $800 billion from the credit markets (to be repaid through inflation and taxation) and spending it on pet political projects, from food stamps to bridge repairs to subsidies for favored energy forms. (Remember opportunity cost!) Doing nothing is indeed is an attractive option. For example, it would avoid re-stimulating parts of the economy shouldn’t have been stimulated in the first place, such as housing and autos. As economist Mario Rizzo said recently, “Trying to prop up housing prices or injecting capital into areas of misallocation is a bad idea. It prevents the market’s corrective mechanisms from working. Wealth should not continually be destroyed after the errors of the bubble have been revealed. This is the proverbial practice of throwing good money after bad.” (Watch Rizzo’s presentation  here. The written remarks are downloadable here.)

But, frankly, doing nothing is only the second-best option. We can do better. We need the government to do less than nothing. It should undo many things.

Government-Inflated Bubble

Let’s remember that government created the housing bubble through a constellation of policies that made borrowing for home mortgages — prime and subprime — artificially attractive. Because of the securitization of mortgages (in itself a good risk-spreading device), the consequences of government housing policies spread far beyond the housing and banking industries. When home prices seemed to be perpetually rising, people were encouraged to refinance their homes and withdraw equity so they could spend the money on cars, trips, and other big-ticket items. Government-stimulated demand touched everything. When the bubble popped — when interest rates rose and the housing glut became apparent — things turned around. People now had costly mortgages they couldn’t refinance;  homes bought on the expectation of early profitable resale were now money losers. The party was over.

It was a party that couldn’t have been thrown without politicians eager to do things for us and, not coincidentally, to boost their reelection prospects as well.

The upshot is that if the economy is to thrive again, the reigning philosophy of government as a social service center will have to change. Many things will have to be undone.

These things will strike most people as politically impossible, but if no one ever talks about them, that’s what they will remain. We have to start somewhere. The first thing we need is a monetary system that is beyond the reach of manipulative politicians and political appointees. Whatever the Fed Reserve’s role in the housing bubble — even if it was only the Alan Greenspan’s promise to provide liquidity to overextended lenders — the central bank has again proven itself hazardous to our economic well-being. When will we cease to tolerate this continuing threat in our midst? When will we realize that the mortals who run it cannot know how much money the economy needs or what interest rates should be? Market-rooted money — most likely gold — and free banking are long overdue. How can we afford to wait any longer?


No More Housing Policy

Also on the list of things to go is every manifestation of housing policy. In a free society there would be no such thing. The alphabet soup of agencies — from HUD to FHA to FHLB, and the rest — should be abolished at once.

The same goes for those privileged cartoon characters Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae, and any I may have overlooked. They exist to circumvent the market in order to carry out the agendas of politicians, who must dispense goodies to favored constituencies in order to keep their hold on power. Because the agencies are backed by captive taxpayers, they are can do things no free-market institution can do, such as obtain special low-interest loans and guarantees. These bureaucracies have no place in a free market. If we haven’t learned that by now, what will it take? (We haven’t learned it. The Obama administration wants to give them more billions.)

While we’re at it, let’s get rid of the income tax if for no other reason than because it would end the mortgage deduction. We must stop thinking of home-ownership as something worthy of government privilege. There’s nothing magic about housing. It’s one more thing we need. Yet it gets special treatment in the law, and economy-watchers give it special attention. Why do news agencies report housing starts faithfully each month as though the fate of the planet hangs in the balance? They never tell us how many computers, Coca-Colas, or boxes of Cheerios were produced.

Other taxes should be cut or abolished too, including the payroll tax, which is a tax on hiring. But — this is often overlooked — tax cuts without spending cuts require more borrowing and more inflation. It’s a bad bargain in the tradition of Keynes. We must cut government spending along with taxes.

If government really wants to make it easier for people to own homes, let it give up control of money and banking, divest itself of the land it holds off the market, and generally relieve society of its endless burdens.

The biggest favor the state can do for us is to stop doing us favors!

32 Comments »

  1. Could we do away with all of the counterproductive regulatory agencies while we are at it? The FDA, OSHA, EPA, et al, are another alphabet soup with destructive consequences.4

  2. great point…why housing start statistics and not listing soda pop sales…i suggest a new gov\’t. agency..job creation…r.w.mcadams

  3. HOW do we get rid of the toxic control of politicians and these corporate giants it creates and keeps alive- HUD, FHA, FANNIE MAE, etc?? How do we get the government to cut spending? How do we get rid of the payroll tax? How do we get the government to give up control of banking and money? there is so much noise, so many speakers, and no leaders…. No one knows which \’boat\’ to get on…. I believe what you are saying, but I want to DO something about it. Tell us what to do.

    Talking isn\’t enough anymore. We need a \’National Convention\’ for citizens that are like-minded, where there can be one, LOUD unified movement of the people, b/c the gov\’t is no longer listening or working for the people, b/c the people are not unified enough. We need to demand changes before our nation becomes a socialist country.

  4. Thanks Sheldon for another excellent post.

    TeresaB, this is doing something, in answer to your questions, “What do we do?” Consider this for a moment, our politicians are not the biggest problem any more. In fact, they are doing what American’s want them to do. Don’t forget that 66 million votes went to Barak Obama (not mine BTW). We have a public that wants exactly what Washington is giving them. That is the biggest challenge we face today – 66 million consumers of government largest.

    So we must first determine that the battle to reverse the trend to socialism is a long battle…one that each of us must personally engage in in a systematic way. We must begin by engaging in the battle of ideas in an effort to re-educate the public on the underlying ideas and principles of freedom (like our friends here at FEE). Folks are looking for creature comforts but don’t realize that they are throwing away their freedoms – and more fundamentally they are heading down a dead-end road that will not deliver those creature comforts anyway.

    TeresaB we must all engage our neighbor, family member, our co-workers, our friends, those we got to church with and more importantly those who voted for Obama. Start your own blog (I did) and invite those whom you can influence to read it and engage with you in the arena of ideas. Do this For Freedom’s Sake.

    DT

  5. Thanks for the motivation to start my own blog and for your reply to my post.

    One thing, but do you think that the 66 million voters really want everything that Obama/Washington is selling, do you think they are really going to consume his policies? I hope not. Obama or McCain in the house, both would have created a stimulus package. And all states in the US are going to take ‘its’ portion of the package. I’ve read that my republican senators were against the package, but they know exactly where they want that money to go in our state.
    I thank God for FEE, I read their articles and find Obama’s economic advisors doing the exact opposite!! Hank Hanigraff says that a lie will make it around the world before truth even has a chance to put its boots on. Sometimes it seems that at the pace we are going, we will be socialist before we win enough hearts and minds back to the basics that Sheldon and others are calling for. You know?
    I hope I am wrong. But thanks Doug.

  6. TeresaB -

    I am still encouraged by the fact that 58 million voters did not vote for Obama, even with the weak choice we had on the other side. (BTW, when I wrote “government largest” I meant largess) Keeping that in mind it is alarming at how many folks brought the Obama package.

    I believe that much damage could be done to our freedoms and liberty if this administration and congress goes un-checked, however we must never capitulate. More than that we must do our best to engage…as the folks at FEE and many others are doing.

    Take a quick look at http://www.forfreedomssake.com if you get the chance. Also, read Dr. Haing Ngor’s story by Lawrence Reed on the Freeman (you can get there from the FEE site)site. This quote impacted me most of all:

    “For Haing Ngor, rediscovering his freedom after experiencing hell on earth wasn’t enough. He couldn’t relax, breathe sighs of relief, or resume living a quiet or anonymous life. He felt compelled to tell his story so others would know what awful things total government can do. He forced us to ponder and appreciate life more fundamentally than ever before.”

    Let us not sit back and watch our freedom’s usurped by our government.

    Grace, DT

  7. A splendid article, and fine common sense. One excellent place to start is supporting legislators calling for States\’ Rights, that is, for DC to get out of every area not specifically covered in the Constitution as delegated to the federal government. Twenty states are on board with this most Constitutional of ideas already. Of course, we also need to keep home-grown legislators from simply encoding all of the outrageous, harmful, and counter-productive regulations promulgated for the benefit of agribusiness and others. Many of us in Texas want to go back to our 1836 Constitution, which would wipe out over a hundred taxes and millions of pages of regulations instantly, unleashing a wealth of productivity.

    Another thing all of you can do is to become as increasingly self-sufficient as you can as individuals. It is imperative for all of us to have ample emergency supplies and to begin growing at least small gardens, and to make up our minds right now that if–more like when–really hard times come just this once the hard-working ants are going to refuse to support the grasshoppers. We have not been able to stop the federal government from robbing us for the benefit of those who do not work, but we can decide that if we are to survive we cannot give constant handouts from our personal stores to those who made no preparations. America has spent 75 years giving away massive amounts of food and wealth, and the larder is nearly empty. Charity begins at home, spreads to family, and is carried out best by individuals and churches. In no way is it justified as a function of government. Yes, decent people are kind to those less fortunate, but our reward is knowing WHAT we have accomplished, and choosing for ourselves to do it, knowing that the recipients recognize their responsibilities to get back on their feet and help someone else in turn. We have leeches who are past eighth-generation welfare \"families.\" No one they know has EVER had a job or worked for a living, and their only responsibility is to vote for liberals.

    The only real purpose of government that can be justified is to protect our borders. A sprawling bureaucracy has no business running the Post Office (FedEx and UPS did it faster, better, and cheaper until they were forced to raise their prices) or even building roads. Roads are not a \"right,\" but a commodity that some want and others do not. Toll roads would be built far less expensively and faster, and anyone who did not wish to pay could creep along as best they could…or build their own roads. Oddly enough, dirt roads work fine.

    A common law court system works splendidly, the more so because judges cannot overrule the juries. About four commandments and a very simple \"If you broke it, you bought it,\" will protect all of us very well.

    There is no justification whatsoever for food stamps, welfare, housing, \"free\" medical care, or any other of the \"entitlement\" programs. There is no justification for bloated school spending that fails to educate our children and indoctrinates them in Liberal hogwash. A much better system is free enterprise and people paying LOCALLY for what they want. If you and your neighbors like X middle school, fine. Raise the money to pay for it. If you want to home school, your kids will get a better education and there are multitudes of superior lesson plans and text books available for free or very little. Send your kids to private school, if you want to. Do anything you like, so long as you do not expect the rest of us to pay for it. At very low cost on-line schooling could combine many forms of this and throw out enough taxes to provide one of life\’s true luxuries, a stay at home mom.

    The biggest thing that has to go is property taxes, because my land is not MINE so long as I hold at by paying Dane Geld to assorted government entities. We all know the Income Tax is illegal under the Constitution and that the so-called Amendment that \"authorized\" it is a sham. Or, if we don\’t, we should. Until the government and the people recognize that my land is MINE, and that the milk and meat my cows produce is MINE, and that what you have produced by your own labor is YOURS, we cannot fail to become more socialistic. No man or government entity has any right to any portion of what you have produced with your skills and labor. The 52% do not have the \"right\" to dictate to the 48%. Nobody has the right to take half of what we produce and frivol it away on the National Endowment for the Arts, AIDS programs in Africa, and importing a hundred thousand Palestinians we do not want and have no use for.

    The South was right, you know. It had a perfect right to leave, and the battle wasn\’t over slavery, a dying institution that was more trouble than it was worth. That was the \"moral\" excuse. The issues were the same then as they are now: big government vs. small local government, and high vs. modest taxes and tariffs. The industrial North wanted high tariffs and quotas and duties; the South wanted to sell cotton at a profit sufficient to make being in business worth while, and to be left alone. Had we been allowed to have the equivalent of a modern \"no fault\" divorce, we would now be two very different nations. To a great extent, we are, and the difference in poverty and crime statistics is very telling. The modern \"damnyankees\" hold the northern states, the coasts, and the big cities. Rural areas are far more conservative, but we keep getting trounced by large population concentrations with better organization.

    It is long past time for us to return to the ideas and ideals which made the USA great while we still have anything left to work with. The entitlement and Nanny State mentality is destroying us. When we take time to share our ideas, we are doing a little bit about the problem. When we stand up and protest against bail outs and pork, we are helping. Most of all, when we clarify our goals, our visions, and our dreams of the past, we have a chance to restore our nation.

    For my part, I\’ll be perfectly happy if we can just get full recognition that Texas is not and never HAS been a state. Check it out! The bill to admit Texas was stalled in committee well over a hundred years ago and had a time clause in it. We STILL fly our flag at the same height as the US flag, because we ARE a nation, no matter that we are invaded and occupied. [Well, okay, so it is a false flag, and our real flag is a single gold star on a field of blue.] The rotunda of our capitol, built in 1939, states that we are the Republic of Texas, and as recently as five years ago a federal judge held that we ARE a separate nation and ordered the US to \"cease and desist hostilities against the land and people of Texas.\" Yes, everyone had a good laugh, but we\’re still working on it. Texas could become, again, the shining example of liberty, justice, and freedom that the USA stood for two hundred years ago.

    What most people need is a crash course in Ayn Rand, von Mises, and even Louis L\’Amour. The average life of a Republic (which the USA has long since ceased to be) is 225 years, and we are past due. The question is whether we will slump into slavery, having allowed ourselves to be disarmed and taxed into poverty, or whether we are going to rally around old principlels.

  8. Excellent post! It’s certainly a laudable goal to eliminate the federal bureaucracy, but I’d be satisfied (for now) if they’d simply do as you suggest – nothing!

  9. WHY DON’T WE START BY PUTTING THOSE THAT STARTED ALL OF THIS ON TRIAL FOR TREASON. LIKE GEORGE THE BUSH & THE BIG DICK CHENEY. THE BUSH FAMILY SHOULD BE EXECUTED ALONG WITH THE ROCKEFELLERS & ROTHSCHILD’S KISSENGER & ALL THE BILDERBERGS FOR IT IS THEM THAT CONCEIVED THIS FOR THEIR FINANCIAL BENEFIT BUT MOST OF YOU ARE BUSY ARGUING REPUBLICAN & DEMOCRAT. OBAMA IS OWNED BY THE BILDEBERG ORGANIZATION SO IS CLINTON SO WE ARE BEING FED A BUNCH OF CRAP SO WE THE PEOPLE CAN FIGHT EACH OTHER. JUST LIKE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AL QAEDA ITS THEM DOING THE TERROR & ASKING US TO ALLOW THEM TO PROTECT US FROM THE BOOGIE MAN. IF THEY CANT FIND A GUY IN A CAVE THEN WE MUST BE REAL STUPID TO THINK THEY ARE PROTECTING US FROM THE SO CALLED ARAB TERRORISTS. THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING THAT THEY HAVE CREATED ALL THE TERROR ATTACKS & ARE BLAMING IT ON A BUNCH OF INNOCENT MUSLIMS. LETS WAKE UP OUR GOVERNMENT ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS.

  10. Wow! As a Canadian looking in I feel to applaud the sentiment expressed. My only hope is that it will extend to more than just talk. I feel like a canoe too close to a sinking ocean liner when I ponder the economic future of our two “joined” countries.

  11. GREAT Post!! \"Less than Nothing\"- I LOVE it!
    And blogging (as suggested) and e-mailing links to ideas such as this article provides will help turn the American People (including Texans) back to Americanists.
    More locally, I would recommend that readers check into the
    \"Indiana Resolution of 2009\" at http://wedeclare.wordpress.com/
    and try to push that spaghetti string up to your state legislature. By creating an electorate that understands how far *over the line* the federal grubbermint has gone, we can make progress toward doing \"Less than Nothing\".
    Thank you Sheldon for this wondrful post!

  12. Let me remind my fellow Americans and the rest of the world, just in case you forgot. We are the most productive country that civilization has ever witnessed. We have faced far greater perils. We are a kind and considerate people who will help the victims who are adversely affected by the current financial situation. When we decide, as we will ultimately will, we will confront the current situation with the best medicine that will cure our malady, \"The Free Market.\" We will roll our sleeves up, work harder, study better, sacrifice more, give more, and generally reinvent the wheel! We no doubt face some difficult challenges but if we put aside parochial interests and debate in the light of day not in the darkness of a closed door back room deal, we are sure to succeed. I think what has gotten everybody so worked up is that we have spent or committed so much borrowed money to fix symptoms rather than the cause. In the free market there is a price for everything. Let the free market price the \"toxic assets\" if the institutions choose to sell them, as has already been done by some. Government could stay out of the way by making the products tax free forever and transferable as well. I\’m no economist but the entrepreneur in me says this may be worth looking into. Then let\’s adopt the methods of The Austrian School of Economic Thought and live happily ever after. The words are mine but the ideas are universal and inspired by 40th President of The United States of America and my hero Ronald Reagan! Let\’s get on with the work we need to do and make \"The Gipper\" proud! As Reagan often said our best days our ahead of us. I think it\’s time for a \"New Morning in America\" sooner rather than latter.

  13. Bob, have you done any reading about The Fair Tax(www.fairtax.org)?
    Americans do overestimate our problems, but information is exponentially growing & moving faster, that in itself seems to birth new problems, like 1100 page stimulus package that our senators had no time to read. : )

    Anyhow DT, thanks for the web address http://www.forfreedomssake.com, I can\’t believe Haing Ngor\’s end, what a tragedy. But I\’m doing as you suggested, I\’m getting involved. I think one of the greatest obstacles I face is taking the time to get armed with the right information. There\’s a lot of weeding to do when everyone believes their view is the only correct view. But engaging with others, reading established and respected writers from FEE and the like, keeping my opinion undecided until I feel I know the issue will suffice.

  14. Teresa,
    I like the idea, but since mostly lawyers write the tax laws and there is a big industry associated with the tax business that I doubt that they are going to act not in their self interest. Plus the tax laws are a method to control the way the politicians want us to act. Such as giving tax subsidies for Green Energy. It would also cut off the supply of lobbyist money which is the mother’s milk of politicians! Keep spreading the word and maybe someday we can have the fair tax as the only one, but for now with the Dems in charge let’s just say I’m skeptical.

  15. I’ve told my friends many times over the years, that if I ever run for office, my campaign slogan will be, “I promise to get things undone, and if I can’t get things undone, I promise I will do nothing at all!”

    I wonder how far I would get with that?

  16. I don’t know what they are feeding you that is making most of you so “BLIND”, you are sheep being led to SLAUGHTER & have no clue. Do you really think the REPUBLICAN MURDERERS are going to do any better then the DEMOCRAT MURDERERS because I reiterate there is no such thing as REP & DEM. There is only REPUBLICRATS. They are 1 & the same. Bill Clinton along with Hillary Kissinger & George the DUBYA Bush ASSASSINATED our last hope John F Kennedy Jr. The only thing you should arm yourself with are AK 47’s. Or at least the right knowledge. Try this on for size.
    CIA asset tied to bin Laden infiltrated FBI before 9/11

    Special prosecutor Fitzgerald met twice with asset, covered up links to al Qaeda and corruption implicating immigration officials and NY Mayor Giuliani–all connected to documents linking Vice President Cheney to 9/11 plot in Philippines

    By Tom Flocco (Also DEAD)http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/CiaAsset.htm

    Who killed John-John?

    “If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the Lord gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the Lord your God in violation of his covenant….and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but no one shall be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you.” Deuteronomy 17: 2-7

    Division 4 team names Clintons, Bush 41, 43 in JFK Jr. assassination

    by Tom Flocco

    Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo (Also DEAD)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3254488777215293198

    Barack Obama is also Cheneys cousin!

    If THEY REALLY WANTED TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE & THE ECONOMY THEY COULD\’VE PAID OFF 97% OF ALL MORTGAGES WITH THE MONEY THEY HAVE ALREADY GIVEN AWAY. Now I\’m no ECONOMIST but wouldn\’t that have solved the problem? The BANKS would have been paid of had plenty of MONEY to lend would have NO TOXIC DEPT. & all the Companies would not be going BANKRUPT (I.E GM CHRYSLER & the rest.) But they don\’t want to redistribute the wealth they want to STEAL THE WEALTH & GIVE US ID CHIPS TO CONTROL OUR EVERY MOVE.

    THE 911 COMMISSION INSULTS THE INELEGANCE OF A 10 YEAR OLD! There is no WAY THAT A BUILDING COULD FREE FALL WITH NO RESISTANCE AT A SPEED OF 10 FLOORS PER SECOND, THEY HAD PLANTED BOMBS SO IT COULD DO THAT PLUS HOW DID SILVERSTEIN KNOW THAT BUILDING SEVEN WAS RIGGED WITH EXPLOSIVES & SAID ON PBS THAT HE TOLD THEM \"PULL IT\"

    I am no Engineer but WAKE UP AMERICA BUILDINGS DON\’T COLLAPSE LIKE THIS.

    They have killed everyone who has gotten in their way. But they cant KILL all of US THE PEOPLE because they would end up killing themselves.

    Watch & read the links & you just might see the light.

    George Bushes younger brother was in charge of Security at the WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDINGS up until September the 11th & REMOVED ALL BOMB SNIFFING DOGS 2 WEEKS BEFORE THE ATTACK. Dick Cheney took over NORAD The week before 9/11 (First time in HISTORY that it was being run by someone other then the Army) THEY ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS & MURDERERS. They are selling us BULLSHIT ALL DAY LONG.

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=10226

    WAKE UP AMERICA

  17. By PETE YOST

    WASHINGTON (AP) – The Obama administration, siding with former President George W. Bush, is trying to kill a lawsuit that seeks to recover what could be millions of missing White House e-mails.

    Two advocacy groups suing the Executive Office of the President say that large amounts of White House e-mail documenting Bush’s eight years in office may still be missing, and that the government must undertake an extensive recovery effort. They expressed disappointment that Obama’s Justice Department is continuing the Bush administration’s bid to get the lawsuits dismissed.

    During its first term, the Bush White House failed to install electronic record-keeping for e-mail when it switched to a new system, resulting in millions of messages that could not be found.

    The Bush White House discovered the problem in 2005 and rejected a proposed solution.

    Recently, the Bush White House said it had located 14 million e-mails that were misplaced and that the White House had restored hundreds of thousands of other e-mails from computer backup tapes.

    The steps the White House took are inadequate, one of the two groups, the National Security Archive, told a federal judge in court papers filed Friday.

    “We do not know how many more e-mails could be restored but have not been, because defendants have not looked,” the National Security Archive said in the court papers.

    “The new administration seems no more eager than the last” to deal with the issue, said Anne Weismann, chief counsel for Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, the other group that sued the EOP.
    The Executive Office of the President includes the president’s immediate staff and many White House offices and agencies.

    Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive, noted that President Barack Obama on his first full day in office called for greater transparency in government.

    The Justice Department “apparently never got the message” from Obama, Blanton said.
    The department defends the government when it is sued.

  18. WATCH THE WHOLE SERIES BUT IF YOU DONT HAVE TIME JUST WATCH THIS ONE & YOUR JAW WILL DROP AT THE LIES THEY HAVE SOLD US. THE ONLY DIFFRANCE BETWEEN SOME OF US IS THAT WE DID NOT BUY IT.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYWzUhkLutM

  19. Yes goverment is to big. They the people in Washington have gone to far as my mother used to say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
    I ask all of you this question. Who is in your cell phone? In mine I have the phone numbers of my Govenor, congressman,and 2 state senators.
    What needs to be done is everyone else do the same use local numbers and demand your represenative gets back home and works from home. They only need go to DC max 4 times per year to vote. They have to be removed from part of the problem DC and the climated.
    Oh yea call at least once per week no emotion just call speak your mind. Remember bring them close.

  20. I’m spreading the word, I’ve already facebooked the Fair Tax! Phone numbers for my governor, congressman and state senators… I already know who is in support of Fair Tax in my Kentucky state : )
    It’s interesting that tax subsidies even have to be offered to encourage the use of Green Energy.

  21. Teresa B stated – “We need a \’National Convention\’ for citizens that are like-minded, where there can be one, LOUD unified movement of the people”

    There is an answer – http://www.wethepeoplecongress.org/

    Check it out!

  22. Until you can UNderstand who you are dealing with you will allways be trying to go to the people that are KILLING you for help. You want to go to the people that ROBBED us of everything. WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE! We the people have to organize a grass roots REVOLUTION not ask the people killing us to do it.

  23. THANKS PUBLIUS! I’m checking it out now!

  24. I love the campaign slogan of “I promise to get things undone, and if I can’t get things undone, I promise to do nothing at all.” If you have any ambitions in running for office, 2010 and 2012 ought to be GREAT years to run against Democrat incumbents. And you won’t necessarily have to run as a Republican to do so, either.

    Another web site I remember with some great ideas is http://www.DownsizeDC.com. The “One Subject at a Time” Act, the “Read the Bills” Act, and “Write the Laws” Act even look worthy to be made part of the Constitution.

    And when Obama’s reign is at an end (“And not short enough it was!” to borrow a quote from Yoda), likely at the end of one term, the next president should subpoena his birth certificate and settle once and for all whether everything he has signed is signed by a legitimately qualified president (in which case we’re stuck with the results until they are legislatively undone), or not (in which case they can all be declared null and void, which would be a nice and easy solution).

  25. This is all great stuff. I would encourage everyone to visit we the people and talk to your local coordinator to get the message out. The internet is great for getting things started, but community meetings are what keep people engaged. The NOSTIMULUS.com presentation to congress was no doubt impressive, but imagine if instead of 600,000+ digital signatures, 600,000 real people marched on the capital. That would no doubt be impressive and send an infinitely stronger message.

    The current government is trying to get us to rally against the bad economic times. While the government may ‘restor[e] a sense of honesty and accountability to our budget,’(President Obama) we must be willing to take a stand for what we believe is wrong with their plan. Redistribution of wealth can (and at this rate will) be achieved through a balanced budget that is made public. I personally read the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. The portions I could understand appalled me. Most is the antithesis of a free market. One shining light was the mandatory use of American Steel in secondary education construction and rehabilitation projects. Must have been Ron Paul\’s doing.

    Finally let us remember that everyone has different views as to how our money should be allocated and used. This is why a federal redistribution won\’t work, but it is what drives America. We have choices. I live in Maryland and believe that my tax money should not be used to promote agriculture in North Dakota when there are struggling farms 30 miles from my house (which I proudly buy from.) We should work towards a more localized governance (states and counties) thus ensuring that money gets spent on what matters most to individual citizens and communities, not our representatives next campaign. I added my representatives phone numbers to my phone tonight so I can keep them close to home! As a Washington Post reader aptly pointed out, we should not get caught up with INTAXICATION, or the euphoria of getting a tax refund, because it is our money to begin with!

  26. TeresaB

    Many are now expressing fear that we are being dragged into socialism and they see no way to stop the rush in that direction. I am not yet convinced that such is the case, and believe, as others on this thread have told you, that our hope is in educating ourselves; family; friends; co-workers; and everybody else we can reach.

    In the end, if we cannot stop the slide into socialism, then there is, even in that, good news.

    The good news about the direction our nation is now going is this well know fact: Socialism always fails. It will fail in America.

    Our duty now is to stand in the gap–be the voice of opposition–until the failure becomes obvious. In the meantime we must prepare the next generation of voters to be capable of restoring free-market capitalism in the wake of socialism’s failure.

    The Founders of our nation understood that the immoral and ignorant cannot be free. It is because of the immorality and ignorance of the current generation that they are willing to vote themselves into slavery. Therefore, we must preach and teach.

    Preach morality–Thou Shall Not Steal and Thou Shall Not Covet Thy Neighbor’s Goods.

    Teach Freedom Economics.

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