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		<title>By: Speaking of Capitalism&#8230; &#124; The Amanda Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speaking of Capitalism&#8230; &#124; The Amanda Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sheldon Richman of FEE explains in his article Frustrating Michael Moore, the term capitalism (meaning free markets) is not used correctly.  What Moore is discussing is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flowers for the Sick &#171; Instead of a Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flowers for the Sick &#171; Instead of a Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think Flowers, like Michael Moore, doesn&#8217;t appreciate the difference between profit per se and the returns to power inherent in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bubbles, Fraud, Government and Short Sellers &#171; ThinkMarkets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubbles, Fraud, Government and Short Sellers &#171; ThinkMarkets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As Sheldon Richman reminds us in the Freeman, “Corporate power and privilege derive from political... Big corporations have strong political backing. Hence when corporate executives complain that short sellers are manipulating stock prices and ask that they be stopped, politicians and regulators listen and take action. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As Sheldon Richman reminds us in the Freeman, “Corporate power and privilege derive from political&#8230; Big corporations have strong political backing. Hence when corporate executives complain that short sellers are manipulating stock prices and ask that they be stopped, politicians and regulators listen and take action. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon Richman</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10266</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheldon Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muggles: Good point. There is something tedious about Moore. How many times will he stand outside a corporate building with a bullhorn and make some demand? Or put some blue-collar worker on camera and embarrass him? It ain&#039;t funny. It ain&#039;t analysis. The audience gets nothing for its money. I wonder how many people leave the theater wondering why they plunked down the cash. And why does Moore lure us into a situation where we have to submit to price gouging if we want popcorn and a Coke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muggles: Good point. There is something tedious about Moore. How many times will he stand outside a corporate building with a bullhorn and make some demand? Or put some blue-collar worker on camera and embarrass him? It ain&#8217;t funny. It ain&#8217;t analysis. The audience gets nothing for its money. I wonder how many people leave the theater wondering why they plunked down the cash. And why does Moore lure us into a situation where we have to submit to price gouging if we want popcorn and a Coke?</p>
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		<title>By: Muggles</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10265</link>
		<dc:creator>Muggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may well be that Mr. Moore gets a firsthand taste of capitalism. I noted last weekend that this film was not in the top 10 grosses for the past week, meaning it grossed under $2 million, perhaps even less. 

While his propagandamentries are undoubtedly cheap to churn out, the speciality branch of Paramount distributing his film laid on lots of TV ads at the time of the initial film launch. This is very expensive advertising even if done mostly on cable/satellite channels. 

My informal tracking of the grosses to date suggest that they may not reach much over $10 million domestic, though the film is still playing. There are DVD and foreign showings, but theater owners and the distributor would normally take most of the gate until certain targets are it. Time will tell, but it seems that trashing &quot;capitalism&quot; of whatever sort isn&#039;t a boffo box office draw. 

Moore&#039;s low rent antics can&#039;t continue unless actual capitialsts (those who risk their own capital) get their money back plus a little vig. 

Sure, true believing statists might flock, but even they will hesitate to part with $10 to hear what they already believe, and few others care about the subject. Moore doesnt&#039; exactly have a reputation for unbiased reporting or even dramatic presentation. Some 250 lb+ goofball in a Tigers ball cap harassing security guards (who, unlike Moore, seem to appreciate capitalism) is hardly entertainment in this &quot;Punked&quot; and realtity TV saturated world. If he danced naked and set himself on fire, maybe...

I assume Moore&#039;s past commie loving films have been modestly profitable (so they must be &quot;evil&quot;, right?) but &quot;Capitalism&quot; might be the bridge too far. You don&#039;t have to be a cheerleader for the AIG/Goldman Sachs banksters to want to see the Dow average back up and your 401(k) in the black. 

Moore&#039;s ideological confusion again contaminates his theme here. Obama has coopted the Left, and real Maoists have long since turned into Armani wearing marketeers. As Sheldon and others have duely noted, it isn&#039;t 1965 again and few intelligent observers are confused by the smoke and mirrors of state capitalist bailouts. 

Cartoon quality anticapitalism simply makes no sense, and this Porky Pig&#039;s muddled attack on a strawman simply ain&#039;t that funny...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may well be that Mr. Moore gets a firsthand taste of capitalism. I noted last weekend that this film was not in the top 10 grosses for the past week, meaning it grossed under $2 million, perhaps even less. </p>
<p>While his propagandamentries are undoubtedly cheap to churn out, the speciality branch of Paramount distributing his film laid on lots of TV ads at the time of the initial film launch. This is very expensive advertising even if done mostly on cable/satellite channels. </p>
<p>My informal tracking of the grosses to date suggest that they may not reach much over $10 million domestic, though the film is still playing. There are DVD and foreign showings, but theater owners and the distributor would normally take most of the gate until certain targets are it. Time will tell, but it seems that trashing &#8220;capitalism&#8221; of whatever sort isn&#8217;t a boffo box office draw. </p>
<p>Moore&#8217;s low rent antics can&#8217;t continue unless actual capitialsts (those who risk their own capital) get their money back plus a little vig. </p>
<p>Sure, true believing statists might flock, but even they will hesitate to part with $10 to hear what they already believe, and few others care about the subject. Moore doesnt&#8217; exactly have a reputation for unbiased reporting or even dramatic presentation. Some 250 lb+ goofball in a Tigers ball cap harassing security guards (who, unlike Moore, seem to appreciate capitalism) is hardly entertainment in this &#8220;Punked&#8221; and realtity TV saturated world. If he danced naked and set himself on fire, maybe&#8230;</p>
<p>I assume Moore&#8217;s past commie loving films have been modestly profitable (so they must be &#8220;evil&#8221;, right?) but &#8220;Capitalism&#8221; might be the bridge too far. You don&#8217;t have to be a cheerleader for the AIG/Goldman Sachs banksters to want to see the Dow average back up and your 401(k) in the black. </p>
<p>Moore&#8217;s ideological confusion again contaminates his theme here. Obama has coopted the Left, and real Maoists have long since turned into Armani wearing marketeers. As Sheldon and others have duely noted, it isn&#8217;t 1965 again and few intelligent observers are confused by the smoke and mirrors of state capitalist bailouts. </p>
<p>Cartoon quality anticapitalism simply makes no sense, and this Porky Pig&#8217;s muddled attack on a strawman simply ain&#8217;t that funny&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Moore: A Teachable Moment for Libertarianism? - Hit &#38; Run : Reason Magazine</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10263</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Moore: A Teachable Moment for Libertarianism? - Hit &#38; Run : Reason Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Richman at the website of the Foundation for Economic Education sees Michael Moore excoriating elements of state capitalism in his new movie Capitalism: A Love Story and thinks he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-10-19 &#171; Overton&#8217;s Arrow</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10219</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-10-19 &#171; Overton&#8217;s Arrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Frustrating Michael Moore &#124; Foundation for Economic Education &quot;Had he called his movie State Capitalism: A Love Story, I might be applauding (with some reservations).&quot; (tags: Michael.Moore capitalism profit statism markets movie review) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10201</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point Milton Friedman used to make (about people like Moore) is that, if the situation was reversed, that is if instead of being a socialist in a capitalist society Moore was a capitalist in a socialist society and he wanted to make a film critical of the socialist system, it would be difficult at best for him to not only acquire financing, but to be allowed to even produce such a film without being heavily censored (and eventually jailed and maybe executed) for his actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point Milton Friedman used to make (about people like Moore) is that, if the situation was reversed, that is if instead of being a socialist in a capitalist society Moore was a capitalist in a socialist society and he wanted to make a film critical of the socialist system, it would be difficult at best for him to not only acquire financing, but to be allowed to even produce such a film without being heavily censored (and eventually jailed and maybe executed) for his actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon Richman</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10197</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheldon Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, he doesn&#039;t explicitly applaud the destruction of the industrial rivals, but he implies that &quot;we&quot; benefited and that once Germany and Japan rebuilt and caught up, we were in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, he doesn&#8217;t explicitly applaud the destruction of the industrial rivals, but he implies that &#8220;we&#8221; benefited and that once Germany and Japan rebuilt and caught up, we were in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must understand Mr. Richman that Moore doesn&#039;t target liberatarianism (he obviously doesn&#039;t even know what it is exactly), but Conservatives, because he perceives Conservatives to be the defender of free markets. And by electing them the defender of free markets and libertarianism, libertarians have lost a lot of high ground and muddled the concept even more.

In Europe there are multiple parties, but even there conservatives are not seen as the prime defender of free markets and thus the concept remains cleaner (though radical free markets are a no go in Europe). 

Moore directs his movies to an audience that is in a locked battle with Conservatives and not with libertarians. It is them that have this muddled concept of what free market means and how it works.
There exists a You Tube video, where you can clearly see that when he discusses his position with more free market and less conservative people. He tends to agree and loses his momentum, because we are suddenly soft targets that concede to some progressive theory and lifestyles. However, this wouldn&#039;t make for a good populist movie, if you have to agree with a group about half the time and even on important issues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must understand Mr. Richman that Moore doesn&#8217;t target liberatarianism (he obviously doesn&#8217;t even know what it is exactly), but Conservatives, because he perceives Conservatives to be the defender of free markets. And by electing them the defender of free markets and libertarianism, libertarians have lost a lot of high ground and muddled the concept even more.</p>
<p>In Europe there are multiple parties, but even there conservatives are not seen as the prime defender of free markets and thus the concept remains cleaner (though radical free markets are a no go in Europe). </p>
<p>Moore directs his movies to an audience that is in a locked battle with Conservatives and not with libertarians. It is them that have this muddled concept of what free market means and how it works.<br />
There exists a You Tube video, where you can clearly see that when he discusses his position with more free market and less conservative people. He tends to agree and loses his momentum, because we are suddenly soft targets that concede to some progressive theory and lifestyles. However, this wouldn&#8217;t make for a good populist movie, if you have to agree with a group about half the time and even on important issues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neuliche Irrtümer und die alte Doppelmoral des Michael Moore &#124; ars libertatis</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10160</link>
		<dc:creator>Neuliche Irrtümer und die alte Doppelmoral des Michael Moore &#124; ars libertatis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Richman &#8211; Frustrating Michael Moore: The filmmaker needs to discover truly radical political economy. Michael Moore &#8211; Congratulations President Obama on the Nobel Peace Prize &#8212; Now Please [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Carson</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10154</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I haven&#039;t seen the movie!  So he actually (at least implicitly) applauds the firebombing of German and Japanese cities for making his childhood idyll possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I haven&#8217;t seen the movie!  So he actually (at least implicitly) applauds the firebombing of German and Japanese cities for making his childhood idyll possible?</p>
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		<title>By: Moral Hazard</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10146</link>
		<dc:creator>Moral Hazard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheldon is absolutely right, had the title of the movie correctly identified the issue, it would be a movie to applaud. Sheldon&#039;s title &quot;State Capitalism: A love affair&quot; or &quot;Socialism: A love affair&quot; would be a lot more appropriate. Although, in strict terms what we have now in US is not Socialism but Fascism -- (mostly)Privately owned means of production highly regulated by the state, when Socialism is -- state owned means of production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheldon is absolutely right, had the title of the movie correctly identified the issue, it would be a movie to applaud. Sheldon&#8217;s title &#8220;State Capitalism: A love affair&#8221; or &#8220;Socialism: A love affair&#8221; would be a lot more appropriate. Although, in strict terms what we have now in US is not Socialism but Fascism &#8212; (mostly)Privately owned means of production highly regulated by the state, when Socialism is &#8212; state owned means of production.</p>
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		<title>By: John and Dagny Galt</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10141</link>
		<dc:creator>John and Dagny Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Brothers and Sisters, Sons and Daughters of Liberty,

There are only two types of human beings.

One type just wants everyone to leave everyone else alone and these humans are students and advocates of the Philosophically Mature Non-Aggression Principle.

The other type refuses to leave others alone and these humans are the Mobocracy Looter Minions with their hords of bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries that perpetuate the perpetration of the loot and booty gravy-train. Rob-peter-to-buy-paul&#039;s-vote bread and circuses of the doomed Amerikan Empire.

You are either the one...or the other.

The John Galt Solution of Starving The Monkeys  is the only solution. Stop funding and forging your own chains and shackles. What are you leaving for your children and grandchildren and prodigy!?!

The Mobocracy Looter Minions must be allowed to consume everything around them, then each other, and finally themselves. There is no other way. Ayn Rand wrote about it over fifty years ago and it rings as soundly today as it did then.

Get your copy of Starving The Monkeys by Tom Baugh today, before the book is banned and the author is hunted down and Vince Fostered!

Sincerely,
John and Dagny Galt
Atlas Shrugged, Owner&#039;s Manual For The Universe!(tm)

http://www.starvingthemonkeys.com/

http://voluntaryist.com/fundamentals/introduction.php

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Brothers and Sisters, Sons and Daughters of Liberty,</p>
<p>There are only two types of human beings.</p>
<p>One type just wants everyone to leave everyone else alone and these humans are students and advocates of the Philosophically Mature Non-Aggression Principle.</p>
<p>The other type refuses to leave others alone and these humans are the Mobocracy Looter Minions with their hords of bureaucrats, jackboots, and mercenaries that perpetuate the perpetration of the loot and booty gravy-train. Rob-peter-to-buy-paul&#8217;s-vote bread and circuses of the doomed Amerikan Empire.</p>
<p>You are either the one&#8230;or the other.</p>
<p>The John Galt Solution of Starving The Monkeys  is the only solution. Stop funding and forging your own chains and shackles. What are you leaving for your children and grandchildren and prodigy!?!</p>
<p>The Mobocracy Looter Minions must be allowed to consume everything around them, then each other, and finally themselves. There is no other way. Ayn Rand wrote about it over fifty years ago and it rings as soundly today as it did then.</p>
<p>Get your copy of Starving The Monkeys by Tom Baugh today, before the book is banned and the author is hunted down and Vince Fostered!</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
John and Dagny Galt<br />
Atlas Shrugged, Owner&#8217;s Manual For The Universe!(tm)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.starvingthemonkeys.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.starvingthemonkeys.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://voluntaryist.com/fundamentals/introduction.php" rel="nofollow">http://voluntaryist.com/fundamentals/introduction.php</a></p>
<p>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon Richman</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10102</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheldon Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve added this update to the text (see links there):

Moore gets the tax-rate story wrong, and I let it get by me. The 91 percent rate fell to 77 in 1964 and 70 in 1965; this was the Kennedy tax cut -- I wonder why Moore didn&#039;t say that Democrats John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson were the rate cutters. Under Republican Ronald Reagan, whom Moore wishes to demonize for cutting taxes for the rich, the rate dropped to 50 and eventually to 28 percent. HT: Gary Chartier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve added this update to the text (see links there):</p>
<p>Moore gets the tax-rate story wrong, and I let it get by me. The 91 percent rate fell to 77 in 1964 and 70 in 1965; this was the Kennedy tax cut &#8212; I wonder why Moore didn&#8217;t say that Democrats John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson were the rate cutters. Under Republican Ronald Reagan, whom Moore wishes to demonize for cutting taxes for the rich, the rate dropped to 50 and eventually to 28 percent. HT: Gary Chartier.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon Richman</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10092</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheldon Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I should have said &quot;...legally plunder us for their own benefit or any other reason...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I should have said &#8220;&#8230;legally plunder us for their own benefit or any other reason&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/comment-page-1/#comment-10089</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“…a system in which no one could collude with politicians to legally plunder the rest of us for their own benefit and everyone was free to enter into any cooperative arrangements to produce and offer goods to others in voluntary exchange … that’s the free market!”

This is a wonderful turn of phrase. When stated like this it&#039;s easier to explain how more regulation may in fact be in order - provided it is directed at reigning in the politicians power to collude and plunder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…a system in which no one could collude with politicians to legally plunder the rest of us for their own benefit and everyone was free to enter into any cooperative arrangements to produce and offer goods to others in voluntary exchange … that’s the free market!”</p>
<p>This is a wonderful turn of phrase. When stated like this it&#8217;s easier to explain how more regulation may in fact be in order &#8211; provided it is directed at reigning in the politicians power to collude and plunder.</p>
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		<title>By: Frustrating Michael Moore &#171; thak&#8217;s cool links</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frustrating Michael Moore &#171; thak&#8217;s cool links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Foundation for Economic Education » Frustrating Michael Moore.  Another great analysis comparing the true free market to this corrupt mess we are engaged in currently. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sheldon Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheldon Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I suspect you&#039;re right. He says early in the movie that things were great in the 1950s, and notes that they were because the American firms&#039; competition were all destroyed in WWII. For him things went sour when the top income tax rate was lowered from 90 percent in the Reagan years.

So Moore is a radical in no respect whatsoever. He&#039;s just a good old big-government, big-business, big-union &quot;liberal.&quot; Hubert Humphrey would have been proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I suspect you&#8217;re right. He says early in the movie that things were great in the 1950s, and notes that they were because the American firms&#8217; competition were all destroyed in WWII. For him things went sour when the top income tax rate was lowered from 90 percent in the Reagan years.</p>
<p>So Moore is a radical in no respect whatsoever. He&#8217;s just a good old big-government, big-business, big-union &#8220;liberal.&#8221; Hubert Humphrey would have been proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Richman this is one of your best pieces, not because of your subject matter.  Michael Moore is an easy target.  What makes this piece so wonderful is how you bring out the essence of the benefits of free markets.  I have heard people debate whether Barack Obama is a fascist or a socialist.  A more important topic would be to discuss what a free market society actually means.  The American public now takes public education, public transportation, regulations, etc., without a whimper, not realizing that the greatest freedom of all is the freedom of choice, the freedom to make the decisions that affect our own lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Richman this is one of your best pieces, not because of your subject matter.  Michael Moore is an easy target.  What makes this piece so wonderful is how you bring out the essence of the benefits of free markets.  I have heard people debate whether Barack Obama is a fascist or a socialist.  A more important topic would be to discuss what a free market society actually means.  The American public now takes public education, public transportation, regulations, etc., without a whimper, not realizing that the greatest freedom of all is the freedom of choice, the freedom to make the decisions that affect our own lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful, Sheldon!

Unfortunately, what I think Moore pines for, what he means by &quot;socialism,&quot; is a kind of New Deal social democracy based on the most bloated and bureaucratic mass-production model out of the mid-20th century.   &quot;There is no God but Chandler, and Galbraith is his prophet.&quot;  Moore has repeatedly expressed nostalgia for the &quot;consensus capitalism&quot; of the mid-20th century (including the &quot;good war&quot; that made it possible by destroying most plant and equipment outside the U.S.).  I think if we could just go back to a world where GM employed half the people in the country, and they all got union wages, the prospect of a &quot;Brazil&quot;-like world managed by giant bureaucracies would make Moore happy as a pig in...  well, you get the idea.

Moore tips his hat to the Green and New Agey stuff, talking about switching Detroit from producing cars to producing buses and high-speed trains.  But  there&#039;s no combination of such products that could continue, after a few years, to utilize the same capacity and employ as many people as it took to produce 18 million cars a year.  From what I can see, Moore has absolutely no sympathy to anything lean or decentralized--just a greenwashed version of Alfred Sloan and George Meany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful, Sheldon!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, what I think Moore pines for, what he means by &#8220;socialism,&#8221; is a kind of New Deal social democracy based on the most bloated and bureaucratic mass-production model out of the mid-20th century.   &#8220;There is no God but Chandler, and Galbraith is his prophet.&#8221;  Moore has repeatedly expressed nostalgia for the &#8220;consensus capitalism&#8221; of the mid-20th century (including the &#8220;good war&#8221; that made it possible by destroying most plant and equipment outside the U.S.).  I think if we could just go back to a world where GM employed half the people in the country, and they all got union wages, the prospect of a &#8220;Brazil&#8221;-like world managed by giant bureaucracies would make Moore happy as a pig in&#8230;  well, you get the idea.</p>
<p>Moore tips his hat to the Green and New Agey stuff, talking about switching Detroit from producing cars to producing buses and high-speed trains.  But  there&#8217;s no combination of such products that could continue, after a few years, to utilize the same capacity and employ as many people as it took to produce 18 million cars a year.  From what I can see, Moore has absolutely no sympathy to anything lean or decentralized&#8211;just a greenwashed version of Alfred Sloan and George Meany.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Wilder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Wilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheldon, thank you. This is the best review of Michael Moore&#039;s movie I have read. It fits very nicely with your other excellent article about the myth of the unregulated free market here:

http://fee.org/articles/tgif/regulation-red-herring/

That is, we do not choose between a regulated or an unregulated market. The choice is to decide who regulates it, centralized government, or decentralized private individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheldon, thank you. This is the best review of Michael Moore&#8217;s movie I have read. It fits very nicely with your other excellent article about the myth of the unregulated free market here:</p>
<p><a href="http://fee.org/articles/tgif/regulation-red-herring/" rel="nofollow">http://fee.org/articles/tgif/regulation-red-herring/</a></p>
<p>That is, we do not choose between a regulated or an unregulated market. The choice is to decide who regulates it, centralized government, or decentralized private individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darin Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article. Mr. Moore, after conceeding that the problems we have are not result of true capitalism, fails to maintain an accurate understanding for capitalism. In fact, it appears his only attempt is merely to further smeer capitalisms name in hopes for more (and obviously progressively more) of the same &quot;democratic-socialism&quot;. 

Less from Moore: A Love Affair with Misunderstanding  
http://economicsfreedommatters.blogspot.com/2009/10/less-from-moore-love-affair-with.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article. Mr. Moore, after conceeding that the problems we have are not result of true capitalism, fails to maintain an accurate understanding for capitalism. In fact, it appears his only attempt is merely to further smeer capitalisms name in hopes for more (and obviously progressively more) of the same &#8220;democratic-socialism&#8221;. </p>
<p>Less from Moore: A Love Affair with Misunderstanding<br />
<a href="http://economicsfreedommatters.blogspot.com/2009/10/less-from-moore-love-affair-with.html" rel="nofollow">http://economicsfreedommatters.blogspot.com/2009/10/less-from-moore-love-affair-with.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon Richman on Michael Moore&#8217;s Love Story &#171; Daniel Joseph Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheldon Richman on Michael Moore&#8217;s Love Story &#171; Daniel Joseph Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sheldon Richman on Michael Moore&#8217;s Love&#160;Story By Daniel J. Smith  http://fee.org/articles/tgif/frustrating-michael-moore/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Speedmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Speedmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great column! I posted about it here, too.
http://bit.ly/jT2oP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great column! I posted about it here, too.<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/jT2oP" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/jT2oP</a></p>
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