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		<title>By: Henry Clemens</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-6078</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Clemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 23:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We neither live in a republic or a democracy. We live under a kleptocracy. Our entire political-military-industrial-corporate-banking system is hopelessly corrupt. Sooner or later, like the late USSR, it will collapse of its own weight. After the coming collapse, our task will be this: rebuild our lives within the framework of a stateless society. The word &quot;government&quot; would forever be considered &quot;a nasty word.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We neither live in a republic or a democracy. We live under a kleptocracy. Our entire political-military-industrial-corporate-banking system is hopelessly corrupt. Sooner or later, like the late USSR, it will collapse of its own weight. After the coming collapse, our task will be this: rebuild our lives within the framework of a stateless society. The word &#8220;government&#8221; would forever be considered &#8220;a nasty word.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John and Dagny Galt</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-6073</link>
		<dc:creator>John and Dagny Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 11:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nor would Jesus torture...

Guess all those &quot;christians&quot;...aren&#039;t so &quot;christian&quot; after all...

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you...

Do you really desire to be a slave and to be tortured and murdered?

Then why advocate it, or cower from voicing opposition to it, when you clearly don&#039;t desire to be personally tortured, mutilated, and murdered...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor would Jesus torture&#8230;</p>
<p>Guess all those &#8220;christians&#8221;&#8230;aren&#8217;t so &#8220;christian&#8221; after all&#8230;</p>
<p>Do unto others as you would have them do unto you&#8230;</p>
<p>Do you really desire to be a slave and to be tortured and murdered?</p>
<p>Then why advocate it, or cower from voicing opposition to it, when you clearly don&#8217;t desire to be personally tortured, mutilated, and murdered&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John and Dagny Galt</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-6072</link>
		<dc:creator>John and Dagny Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 11:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Would John Galt Do?
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We&#039;re quite sure slavery, wealth redistribution, and endless wars are NOT on the list!
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And for the religious amongst us...
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What Would Jesus Do?
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We&#039;re quite sure slavery, wealth redistribution, and endless wars are NOT on the list!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Would John Galt Do?<br />
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We&#8217;re quite sure slavery, wealth redistribution, and endless wars are NOT on the list!<br />
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And for the religious amongst us&#8230;<br />
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What Would Jesus Do?<br />
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We&#8217;re quite sure slavery, wealth redistribution, and endless wars are NOT on the list!</b></p>
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		<title>By: John and Dagny Galt</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-6071</link>
		<dc:creator>John and Dagny Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 11:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.&quot; -- John Galt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.&#8221; &#8212; John Galt</p>
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		<title>By: marxbites</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-6056</link>
		<dc:creator>marxbites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said Jacob!

But for others, the name is Gabriel Kolko, also mentioned in this EXCELLENT essay by Roy Childs.

Heres an excerpt and the link - good reading for all lovers of liberty and enemies of the unbridled booted and spurred Leviathan saddling and riding the taxpayer like a rented mule.

from &quot;Big Business and the Rise of American Statism&quot; by Roy Childs

As Gabriel Kolko demonstrates in his masterly The Triumph of Conservatism and in Railroads and Regulation, the dominant trend in the last three decades of the nineteenth century and the first two of the twentieth was not towards increasing centralization, but rather, despite the growing number of mergers and the growth in the overall size of many corporations, toward growing competition. Competition was unacceptable to many key business and financial leaders, and the merger movement was to a large extent a reflection of voluntary, unsuccessful business efforts to bring irresistible trends under control. ... As new competitors sprang up, and as economic power was diffused throughout an expanding nation, it became apparent to many important businessmen that only the national government could [control and stabilize] the economy. ... Ironically, contrary to the consensus of historians, it was not the existence of monopoly which caused the federal government to intervene in the economy, but the lack of it.1  

While Kolko does not consider the causes and context of the economic crises which faced businessmen from the 1870s on, we can at least summarize some of the more relevant aspects here. The enormous role played by the state in American history has not yet been fully investigated by anyone. Those focusing on the role of the federal government in regulating the economy often neglect to mention the fact that America’s ostensive federalist system means that the historian concerned with the issue of regulation must look to the various state governments as well. What he will find already has been suggested by a growing number of historians: that nearly every federal program was pioneered by a number of state governments, including subsidies, land grants and regulations of the antitrust variety. Furthermore, often neglected in these accounts is the fact that the real process of centralization of the economy came not during the Progressive Era, but rather (initially) during the Civil War, with its immense alliance between the state and business (at least in the more industrialized North). Indeed, such key figures in the progressive Era as J. P. Morgan got their starts in alliances with the government of the North in the Civil War. The Civil War also saw the greatest inflationary expansion of the monetary supply and greatest land grants to the railroads in American history. These and other related facts mean that an enormous amount of economic malinvestment occurred during and immediately after the Civil War, and the result was that a process of liquidation of malinvestment took place: a depression in the 1870s.  

http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm

See also Murray Rothbards &quot;Wallstreet, Banks and American Foreign Policy&quot; - the education govt and its lackeys have purposely denied Americans - power&#039;s 100 yr long CYA of disinformation, and a few others for good measure.

Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard66.html

The Creature from Jelyll Island a Second Look at the Federal Reserve by Ed Griffin
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TAh1gy6rc&amp;feature=related
 
Still Don&#039;t Believe In The New World Order?
http://www.svpvril.com/nwo.html
 
A CHRONOLOGICAL HISTORY OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
http://www.crossroad.to/Excerpts/chronologies/cuddy-nwo.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said Jacob!</p>
<p>But for others, the name is Gabriel Kolko, also mentioned in this EXCELLENT essay by Roy Childs.</p>
<p>Heres an excerpt and the link &#8211; good reading for all lovers of liberty and enemies of the unbridled booted and spurred Leviathan saddling and riding the taxpayer like a rented mule.</p>
<p>from &#8220;Big Business and the Rise of American Statism&#8221; by Roy Childs</p>
<p>As Gabriel Kolko demonstrates in his masterly The Triumph of Conservatism and in Railroads and Regulation, the dominant trend in the last three decades of the nineteenth century and the first two of the twentieth was not towards increasing centralization, but rather, despite the growing number of mergers and the growth in the overall size of many corporations, toward growing competition. Competition was unacceptable to many key business and financial leaders, and the merger movement was to a large extent a reflection of voluntary, unsuccessful business efforts to bring irresistible trends under control. &#8230; As new competitors sprang up, and as economic power was diffused throughout an expanding nation, it became apparent to many important businessmen that only the national government could [control and stabilize] the economy. &#8230; Ironically, contrary to the consensus of historians, it was not the existence of monopoly which caused the federal government to intervene in the economy, but the lack of it.1  </p>
<p>While Kolko does not consider the causes and context of the economic crises which faced businessmen from the 1870s on, we can at least summarize some of the more relevant aspects here. The enormous role played by the state in American history has not yet been fully investigated by anyone. Those focusing on the role of the federal government in regulating the economy often neglect to mention the fact that America’s ostensive federalist system means that the historian concerned with the issue of regulation must look to the various state governments as well. What he will find already has been suggested by a growing number of historians: that nearly every federal program was pioneered by a number of state governments, including subsidies, land grants and regulations of the antitrust variety. Furthermore, often neglected in these accounts is the fact that the real process of centralization of the economy came not during the Progressive Era, but rather (initially) during the Civil War, with its immense alliance between the state and business (at least in the more industrialized North). Indeed, such key figures in the progressive Era as J. P. Morgan got their starts in alliances with the government of the North in the Civil War. The Civil War also saw the greatest inflationary expansion of the monetary supply and greatest land grants to the railroads in American history. These and other related facts mean that an enormous amount of economic malinvestment occurred during and immediately after the Civil War, and the result was that a process of liquidation of malinvestment took place: a depression in the 1870s.  </p>
<p><a href="http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm" rel="nofollow">http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm</a></p>
<p>See also Murray Rothbards &#8220;Wallstreet, Banks and American Foreign Policy&#8221; &#8211; the education govt and its lackeys have purposely denied Americans &#8211; power&#8217;s 100 yr long CYA of disinformation, and a few others for good measure.</p>
<p>Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy<br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard66.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard66.html</a></p>
<p>The Creature from Jelyll Island a Second Look at the Federal Reserve by Ed Griffin<br />
<a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TAh1gy6rc&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TAh1gy6rc&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Still Don&#8217;t Believe In The New World Order?<br />
<a href="http://www.svpvril.com/nwo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.svpvril.com/nwo.html</a></p>
<p>A CHRONOLOGICAL HISTORY OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER<br />
<a href="http://www.crossroad.to/Excerpts/chronologies/cuddy-nwo.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.crossroad.to/Excerpts/chronologies/cuddy-nwo.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5854</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A low, flat tax on personal, earned income and no deductions. Otherwise there will always be someone getting the government at some level to give an advantage over the other guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A low, flat tax on personal, earned income and no deductions. Otherwise there will always be someone getting the government at some level to give an advantage over the other guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Carson</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5775</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s something especially perverse (not to mention Hamiltonian)  about the idea of saddling taxpayers with interest-bearing debt, in order to buy up bad assets at inflated value, so they might use the resulting liquidity to lend the money back to the public at interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s something especially perverse (not to mention Hamiltonian)  about the idea of saddling taxpayers with interest-bearing debt, in order to buy up bad assets at inflated value, so they might use the resulting liquidity to lend the money back to the public at interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Loberfeld</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5756</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Loberfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &lt;a href=&quot;http://ABCDunlimited.com/ideas/modlib.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Modern Liberalism at Wit&#039;s End&quot;&lt;/a&gt;: 

	All this is not to say that [&lt;I&gt;New Republic&lt;/I&gt; senior editor] Chait hasn&#039;t taught us anything inadvertently. Recall how he spoke of an ideology that &quot;resembles that of communism.&quot; Indeed: a crafted mythology as official history; government growth as a declared inevitability; administration of the masses economically (professedly to benefit the lower classes, really to establish a political elite); the use of the term &lt;I&gt;socialization&lt;/I&gt; to denote usurpation by the State of the institutions of society; the invocation of &quot;wrecker&quot; saboteurs (&quot;reactionaries&quot; and &quot;conservatives&quot;) to prove that statism never fails, but is only failed; militarism in the service of &quot;pacification.&quot; Corporate socialism and Communist socialism are of course not twin totalitarianisms, but they are kindred Orwellianisms: Fantasy is Reality -- reality, fantasy. 

READ &lt;a href=&quot;http://ABCDunlimited.com/ideas/modlib.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THE ENTIRE ARTICLE.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://ABCDunlimited.com/ideas/modlib.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Modern Liberalism at Wit&#8217;s End&#8221;</a>: </p>
<p>	All this is not to say that [<i>New Republic</i> senior editor] Chait hasn&#8217;t taught us anything inadvertently. Recall how he spoke of an ideology that &#8220;resembles that of communism.&#8221; Indeed: a crafted mythology as official history; government growth as a declared inevitability; administration of the masses economically (professedly to benefit the lower classes, really to establish a political elite); the use of the term <i>socialization</i> to denote usurpation by the State of the institutions of society; the invocation of &#8220;wrecker&#8221; saboteurs (&#8220;reactionaries&#8221; and &#8220;conservatives&#8221;) to prove that statism never fails, but is only failed; militarism in the service of &#8220;pacification.&#8221; Corporate socialism and Communist socialism are of course not twin totalitarianisms, but they are kindred Orwellianisms: Fantasy is Reality &#8212; reality, fantasy. </p>
<p>READ <a href="http://ABCDunlimited.com/ideas/modlib.html" rel="nofollow">THE ENTIRE ARTICLE.</a></p>
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		<title>By: test</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5750</link>
		<dc:creator>test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>test</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Bieser</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5579</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Bieser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s an altogether bright line separating the &quot;good&quot; businessmen from the &quot;bad&quot; capitalists. I can think of a few main-street businessmen who will curse Wall Street corruption while finding it perfectly ethical to use local zoning and licensing regulations to quash competition. Statism is pervasive in our culture at all levels. We have a very, very large job to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure there&#8217;s an altogether bright line separating the &#8220;good&#8221; businessmen from the &#8220;bad&#8221; capitalists. I can think of a few main-street businessmen who will curse Wall Street corruption while finding it perfectly ethical to use local zoning and licensing regulations to quash competition. Statism is pervasive in our culture at all levels. We have a very, very large job to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kinnett</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5568</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Kinnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 12:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Richman,

Your view of the problem of Geitner-in-charge is helpful to all who are frustrated with the unfairness of it all.  However, I believe another lens on the situation is crucial in order to understand it.

&#039;Capitalists&#039; and &#039;businessmen&#039; are not the same thing.  There are businessmen of integrity who want to compete fairly, who love the free market and want to excel there.  I liken them to honest pro athlete&#039;s and team owners.

On the other hand, there are devious businessmen who want to win at any cost, who will break any rules they can get away with, who think honest people are &#039;suckers&#039; to be taken advantage of.

Let us not be like silent Muslims who tolerate Wahabism without open rebuke or criticism.  These foul businessmen are destroying our system by buying politicians who throughout time have been weak and succeptible (sic?).  Once we create a public stigma for CEOs and companies that lobby for government force to be used on their side, then we will have some chance of returning to a limited government role.

Keep spreading the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Richman,</p>
<p>Your view of the problem of Geitner-in-charge is helpful to all who are frustrated with the unfairness of it all.  However, I believe another lens on the situation is crucial in order to understand it.</p>
<p>&#8216;Capitalists&#8217; and &#8216;businessmen&#8217; are not the same thing.  There are businessmen of integrity who want to compete fairly, who love the free market and want to excel there.  I liken them to honest pro athlete&#8217;s and team owners.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there are devious businessmen who want to win at any cost, who will break any rules they can get away with, who think honest people are &#8217;suckers&#8217; to be taken advantage of.</p>
<p>Let us not be like silent Muslims who tolerate Wahabism without open rebuke or criticism.  These foul businessmen are destroying our system by buying politicians who throughout time have been weak and succeptible (sic?).  Once we create a public stigma for CEOs and companies that lobby for government force to be used on their side, then we will have some chance of returning to a limited government role.</p>
<p>Keep spreading the light.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5539</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These link templates drive me nuts all over the internet!


How Dare You Want To Know What &quot;Your&quot; Government Is Doing! 
http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-dare-you-want-to-know-what-your.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These link templates drive me nuts all over the internet!</p>
<p>How Dare You Want To Know What &#8220;Your&#8221; Government Is Doing!<br />
<a href="http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-dare-you-want-to-know-what-your.html" rel="nofollow">http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-dare-you-want-to-know-what-your.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5538</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It\&#039;s shameless self promotion, I know, but I wrote an article on a related subject: &lt;a href=\&quot;http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-dare-you-want-to-know-what-your.html\&quot; title=\&quot;How Dare You Want To Know What \&quot;Your\&quot; Government Is Doing!\&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It\&#8217;s shameless self promotion, I know, but I wrote an article on a related subject: &lt;a href=\&quot;http://theinternationallibertarian.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-dare-you-want-to-know-what-your.html\&quot; title=\&quot;How Dare You Want To Know What \&quot;Your\&quot; Government Is Doing!\&quot;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Steelman</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5519</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Steelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 20:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government regulation around the world is in fact intended to benefit the regulated in particular those who are already members of the club of whatever industry is being regulated. See Triumph of Conservatism by Kokol. Were it not so government would defer to the funcioning of the free market as the perfect democratic regulator, which (even with all the obstacles and road blocks imposed by governments on behalf of their clients, the ruling elites of each country) does a masterful job every day of balancing and supplying the demands of 6 billion people without edicts and without violent aggression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government regulation around the world is in fact intended to benefit the regulated in particular those who are already members of the club of whatever industry is being regulated. See Triumph of Conservatism by Kokol. Were it not so government would defer to the funcioning of the free market as the perfect democratic regulator, which (even with all the obstacles and road blocks imposed by governments on behalf of their clients, the ruling elites of each country) does a masterful job every day of balancing and supplying the demands of 6 billion people without edicts and without violent aggression.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Frank Robinson</title>
		<link>http://fee.org/articles/rule-elite/comment-page-1/#comment-5493</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Frank Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article! Stay after them.</description>
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